I have now discovered after reading the update by Chris over at Scottish Genes that there is an advanced search function where you can search for baptisms if you know the names of both parents. The advanced search is used when you click on the particular county that you are interested in, such as Kilkenny.
I did another search this morning for the children of John Quirke & Catherine Slattery. The number of hits was 5, of which I had already purchased one (which yesterday to view cost me €5.00). To view the other 4 hits, the cost was discounted to only €12.00, which means it only cost €3.00 per record instead of €5.00. Pity I didn’t realise this yesterday when I was searching.
One thing though is that I found another child born to John & Catherine Quirk. I was only aware that they had 4 children, all of whom immigrated to New South Wales during the 1850’s, along with their mother Catherine. The baptism record for ‘Ally Quirke’ shows her baptism to be on the 20th July 1835 at St John’s Well Kilkenny. I did a quick look and found neither a death nor a marriage for Ally within Kilkenny. I’ve also just checked the NSW State Records website to see if maybe she had come to NSW but not listed there either. So I wonder what happened to her. Did she die in childhood? Did she marry in Ireland and then immigrant? Maybe she went to America with some of her Aunts or Uncles? From the transcript of the ‘life and times of Thomas Quirke’, he wrote that “My paternal Uncles and Aunts were all well educated. Some died young, and others emigrated to America”.
The baptism records that I got today are great in that they show some possible clues to some family.
- On the Baptism record for Margaret Quirk (1838), sponsor 1 is Michael Quirk
- On the Baptism record for Mary Quirk (1832), sponsor 1 is William Quirk
- Also, of interest is that On the Baptism record for Catherine Quirk (1841), sponsor 1 is James Millet (the quirk family acted as agents for the landlord named Millet at Mount Nugent Estate)
I only know the names of four of the male children of James & Alice Quirke, 3 of which immigrated to NSW (Peter, Nicholas & Thomas) and John my GGG Grandfather, who died sometime prior 1850 in Kilkenny. I’ll be looking forward to when I can also do a parent search in Tipperary, as James & Alice were married in Tipperary around 1798 (haven’t found the marriage yet). When I did a search within Kilkenny, I only got a hit for 3 baptisms, which I’m yet to purchase.
I have also thought in the past that it was at times impossible to find the correct entry and not sure whether paying 5euros for a record was worth it. It has been a hit or miss affair.
Today I logged into the new database and did a search for the baptism of my GG grandmother, Mary Quirk (parents John & Catherine) who was born around 1832. I know that they were from Kilkenny so I was able to narrow down the search. Previously without having to input the name of the father, I got 6 possible matches between 1830 & 1835. Today I was able to add Mary’s father’s name and it gave me two options, one of which I had already viewed a couple of months ago (which was wrong). So I decided to take the plunge and hey, I have Mary’s baptism record. I already knew her mother’s maiden name was Slattery, as Catherine came out to Australian in 1857.
|Name:||Mary Quirk||Date of Baptism/Birth:||12-Aug-1832|
|Address:||Johns Well||Parish/District:||ST. JOHN’S|
|Father:||John Quirk||Mother:||Catherine Slattery|
|Sponsor 1 /
|William Quirk||Sponsor 2 /
It’s interesting to see that both informants’ names were ‘Quirk’s’. I’m guessing that William was one of John’s brothers, as his parents had a total of 12 children (10 males and 2 females, of which I only know the names of 4 of the males) whereas the second informant, Mary, could have been the wife of one of John’s brothers, or possibly the sister of John.
My next look will be to see if I can find the death record for John Quirk, as all I know is that he died sometime prior to 1850 (or thereabouts) – John died as a result of an accident after being crushed between a vehicle and a gate. Unfortunately a quick look at the index only brings up one death for a John Quirk but this was in Meath in 1846. I cannot be certain of exactly when John died or if in fact he died in Kilkenny.
If the cost to view the records on the IHF were even ½ the price they are, I’d probably spend a little bit more looking for my Quirk ancestors, but at the moment, it’s still debateable whether I’d pick the right one when I complete search.