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New Page add – Current Research

Posted: January 2, 2011 in General

I have added a new page to my blog – Current Research and Activities which shows a list of my current research or other activities, such as general genealogy housekeeping. 

A seperate page will be added to show the completed research and I’ll write an blog entry as I progress.

This time last year I did not have any real plans for my research. I only made two goals for the year and one was to get fit again, especially after the previous 12 months of inactivity due to illness.

My other goal was to spend more time doing my family history, whatever or wherever that took me. I have to say that both goals have been achieved with I’d say much success. I am 100% fitter and happier than before (doing ‘Bootcamp’ 3 nights a week helps!!!) and my one fitness goal for 2011 is to run in the 4km Mother’s Day Classic which helps support Breast Cancer Research. My Sister had Breast Cancer and is now what they say, in remission.

As for my family history, I did not have anything in particular I wanted to achieve but this is a list of what I did do:

  • Started this blog in May 2010
  • Kept up to date with my website – www.baker1865.com 
  • Using Irish Family History Foundation new search function I was able to track down the baptism & marriage records of my Quirk family in Kilkenny Ireland.
  • Decided to give AncestryUK a go, as I figured without it, my UK research just wouldn’t be going anywhere.
  • Made two family connections, one with my Baker family and the other with my Harris family, who were both able to provide some additional information.
  • Scanned all of my photos to my computer.
  • Trawled through http://trove.nla.gov.au/ on a regular basis and found a number of newspaper articles on various ancestors.
  • Completed two online Genealogy Courses from Pharos Tutors
  • Commenced a One Place Study on Boxford, Suffolk. I have already compiled the 1841 census for Boxford.
  • Purchased a number of programs/data to help with my research, including: National Burial Index England & Wales, – Third Edition, Suffolk Marriage Index 1813-1837, Suffolk Burial Index 1538-1900, Sudbury Suffolk Marriage Licences 1684-1839, Phillimores Suffolk Marriage Registers Vol 1 -4, South Australian National Directory 1867-1868, Deaths from South Australian Government Gazettes 1845-1941
  • Attended the History & Genealogy Expo Sydney 2010, in September
  • Found the Chelsea Pensioner Record for my Ancestor John Baldwin
  • Worked on my Quirke, Baker, Baldwin, Harris, Richer & Scutcher Families.
  • And a whole lot of other research
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For 2011, I intend to:

  • I have now scanned all of my photos, including all of the photos that my grandmother who passed away in September had. She left behind 8 photo albums and there were quite a few photos taken in the 1950’s and 60’s. There were also a couple of photos her father, her uncle and cousins. They are all now on my computer. Next step is to attach the photos to the individuals in my database.
  • Create an actual research task list of things I want to achieve this year of my direct ancestors. To include the names of people, what research needs to be done, and where to find it. Legacy does have a good ‘research task list’, but I need something that is right there in front of me, and maybe a good old excel spread sheet might do the trick.
  • Continue to write this blog at least every fortnight
  • Play around with Evernote. Today I downloaded and installed Evernote as I was looking for something to record my never ending notes of research that I am currently undertaking, instead of writing it down on a piece of paper as I am going along, (and not finding it again). I have read some reviews on a few other genealogy blogs, so it will be interesting to see if I use the program or revert back to my old ways. I don’t want to use it to attach actual records or documents as when I do find something, such as a document I find on Ancestry, I immediately download it and save it to the appropriate surname folder, but need something instead to record:  a. Those bits of information that I am not ready to record into my Legacy Database. b. Those bits of information that I need to do further research on
  • Complete more online courses from Pharos Tutors, in particular “All About Parish Registers
  • I want to do the Certificate in Genealogical Research from the Society of Australian Genealogists, so need to decide by March 2011, whether to start it this year or next year.
  • Continue to save enough money to go to Gallipoli in 2012. 
  • Pass more information on to my parents as I continue my research. I have been doing my family history for over 20 years but haven’t really discussed the things I have found out. Only little bits and pieces every now and again. I want to put all that I currently have into a viewable report for them to both read.
  • Whatever else that I find interesting

I saw two quotes in today’s paper that I found interesting –

“The key to life is to accept all challenges” – Bette Davis

 “The way to get started is to quit talking and begin doing” – Walt Disney

Have an enjoyable 2011 in all that you do……

Last week I was sent an invitation by a ‘distant’ cousin to his my heritage.com website. We are related through our common ancestor, my GGG grandmother. I am connected through her first marriage and he is connected through her second marriage. I logged in and the first thing I noticed that there were quite a number of people in the ‘database’. Many of these names I was able to see were of ‘living’ people and all of the personal data, photos could be accessed. Not one person’s details that was shown to still be living were hidden. I ignored this at the time and didn’t think too much else about it, and thought that I would comment about seeing these details at a later time seeing that I had other more important family issues to deal with.

Today I find out that I am no longer a member of the site. Why? Because yesterday I took a closer look and I actually found my mother, my two uncles and some details of some other of my close living relatives on the site. I have never given this person any information about my immediate family.

Whenever I exchange information with someone, I always provide a gedcom file that only goes to my great grandparents.  I sent an email to the site owner yesterday with the following:

“I have removed all details relating to living people that are directly connected to me from your site. I don’t understand how you would have this information as I never provide details about living persons on my family tree to ANYONE. When I exchange data with someone, I only provide a gedcom file down to my great grandparents, so I am again unsure how you have information on the 3 next generations. Can you let me know who provided this information to you? Also, when other people provide me data, sometimes they provide details on all generations even for those that are living (like you did,). My policy is that I normally do NOT upload the information on the living people given to me to my legacy family tree database and if I do, I then mark them as both living and their details as being private and not available for publication. Please show me the courtesy of not publishing the details of my living relatives on your website as I do for you”

Was I wrong in doing this? Apparently yes, as the response I got this morning was:  ‘my website is a private site open only to family members and they don’t object!!!!”.

I’m sorry but I do object. I object to having details about my immediate family available to be seen by people I don’t know and are technically not related to my family and if they are, then they are very distant. Just like I object to seeing the private details of people I don’t know. And I still question how he obtained the details of my mother, my uncles and other members. I’ll be honest I am not sure who he would have received these details from.

On My Hertiage, a  private site, means that “– The Family Site and Family Tree will be accessible only to site members and webmasters”.

I actually feel sick in the stomach to think that this person has gone as far as removing me from accessing the site seeing that I have objected to having private details available to all members of the site.  The concern here is that one, I have been removed from being a member of the site, due to my objections, but also that there appears to be a glaring security and privacy issue with My Heritage.com and I had hoped the site owner would have understood this.

I have done a Google search and have tried to find some information on the privacy settings on the My Heritage website but this is all I could find http://blog.myheritage.com/2010/07/new-feature-packed-profile-pages/ and a comment at the bottom says:

“About privacy, you should also keep in mind that on heritage data of living people (first names, birth dates, etc) is always private! So even if your site is set to public, guests will see instead of the first name and no further data”.

The above is not the case in relation to the site that I was given access to. Details about people who I do not know, were visible, such as their birth dates, marriage dates, photos, comments. Even as a private site and being member should not give a person the right to view these details about living relatives that they do not know just becuase they are a member of the site.

Going to the community page, http://www.myheritage.com/community and finding that I can access and view data and photos of a number of people from around the world is another concern. If the claim on the front of their website is true, that My Heritage.com is free private and secure, than I should not be able to see these details at all.

So what do I do now? Do I send a complaint to My heritage or just live in hope that the site owner actually is going to show me the courtesy of not publishing data about the details of my family who are still living?

I am sitting here wondering if I should get excited or just stay calm.  I’m wondering if after 20 odd years, I’ve actually found when my ancestor John Shoulders arrived in NSW.

All the information that I know up today, was that he married Mary Ryan (Ryan is on the marriage certificate but actual maiden name was Hanratty), in 1851 at Armidale.

John & Mary had 4 children, of who the youngest Ellen Shoulders was my GG Grandmother.  According to her birth certificate in 1856, John was aged ‘40’ and had been born in Aylesbury Buckinghamshire.

John died in May 1858 at Hernani, New South Wales.  His death certificate stated that he was 42   and had been in the colony for 26 years, making his arrival to be about 1832 and therefore making his age to be about 16 when he arrived. I’ve never been able to find what ship he arrived. With his age and the year of arrival, I always wondered, was he a convict?

A few weeks ago I requested a research service from the Buckinghamshire Family History Society to provide a list of all the baptism’s, burials & marriages for the surname of Shoulders, spanning from 1750-1850 across Buckinghamshire, using all possible variant spellings, including Shouldar, Showler, Shouler, Shouldar. With this, there were a few possibilities with baptisms in Aylesbury ranging from 1804 to 1816.

I then did a search on the NSW State Record Online Index for John, using a number of different variant spellings, which I had not considered doing before.

This is what I find:

  • SHOWLER        John     Countess of Harcourt   1828     33/758  Ticket of Leave            [4/4090; Reel 920]          District: Inverary; Tried: Bucks QS
  • SHOWLER        John     Countess of Harcourt   1828     40/0846  15 May 1840    Certificate of Freedom   [4/4358; Reel 1006]            TL 33/758

I then checked the UK, Prison Hulk Registers and Letter Books, 1802-1849 Record for John Showler and find that he was tried at Aylesbury Buckinghamshire on the 15th January 1828 for stealing bacon, and pork. Another record shows that John was 21 and that he is listed as being in custody before and of ‘bad character’.  His NSW convict indent in 1828 though shows that he was only 20.  He arrived in April 1828 but does not appear in the NSW 1828 Census.

From checking the baptism records a John Showler, the closest possible baptism is one that is recorded in 1804 to parents James & Esther both of Aylesbury, Buckinghamshire.

Despite this John Showler being about 10 years older than John Shoulders, could he actually be John Shoulders?  There are no records of John Shoulders prior to his marriage in 1851 in NSW or any of the other Australian states and apart from the TOL and CF that John Showler received in 1840, there appears so far to be no other record of John Showler in NSW. I note that at this  present time I am in no way confirming that John Showler is John Shoulders but just putting it out there that MAYBE they might be the one and the same. So if you are connected to the Shouler/Showler family in Aylesbury Buckinghamshire, let me know and maybe we might be able to confirm the connection.  I am the type of person who will not confirm a connection until I have positive proof.

I also note that a Thomas Showler, also arrived in 1832 on board the Georgina. On his convict indent, it states that he had a cousin John Showler living in the colony for 3 years.

  • SHOWLER              Thomas                 Georgiana                             1831       38/1157              Ticket of Leave      [4/4121; Reel 930]        District: Goulburn; Born: Bucks; Trade: Ploughs; Tried: Bucks QS
  • SHOWLER              Thomas                 Georgiana                             1831       49/0225                11 May 1849        Certificate of Freedom                [4/4412; Reel 1026]            TL 39/1157

 I’ve also found reference to a James Shoulder born Aylesbury, who had served in the 11th Dragoons. From checking James’ military record on Find My Past, James had enlisted in 1817 and was discharged in 1838.  He is in the 1841 census and living at Aylesbury, also in the household is a Mary Showler (45), Thomas Wheeler (20) and Joseph Freman (10).  The next census I find James is in the 1871 census and he is living at Chelsea London with his wife Elizabeth (60) and with two children Henry (20) and Sophia (19). From checking and comparing the baptism records for Aylesbury, it appears James’s parents were Thomas & Mary or Maria and is ‘possibly’ the brother to Thomas Showler, the convict who arrived here in 1832, as his parents appear to have been Thomas & Maryann.

Last weekend I spent two days at the History and Genealogy Expo at Parramatta, which was well run by Unlock the Past.

Over the two days I attended five talks.  In all, the two day event was excellent and I took away with me some knew found knowledge and some excellent new resources that I bought, such as some books and software.

From each of the talks I attended, I talk a great deal of notes and in summary I provide the following links relating to 3 of the talks I attended:

Caring for Your family history archives

 

Discover Scottish Family History

 

Tracing your Irish Ancestors to their Homeland

  • Find your ancestors in Australia first before trying to find them in Ireland
    • Check Shipping Records
    • Birth, Death & Marriage Records
    • Once you know where they came from:
      • What is a townland
      • What is a parish
      • Why did the leave Ireland?
      • What was the agricultural situation like?

 

My Grandmother – a treasure

Posted: September 29, 2010 in General

Sometimes life throws you a curve ball.  Sometimes you know the curve ball is coming but it still hits you hard.

Last Sunday I spent 3 hours with my Grandmother. It was just the two of us talking and spending time together.  I asked her about her mother and father.  I already knew their names but talking to her and getting my Nanna to talk about them as people and who they were was special.   My Great Grandmother was Daisy Harris.   Daisy died when my grandmother was 13 in 1932 and Nanna said that even though she did not have a photo of her, ‘I still remember her long black hair as if she was standing here in front of me’.  My Great Grandfather, Ernest Mitchell was a character.  I already knew that he was the trainer of the 1921 North Shore Bears SFL (AFL) winning team but she said that her and her sister used to go to North Sydney Oval with their father, just so they could get to eat the oranges he took to the team.  He also performed in a number of plays in the 1920’s and 1930’s in Sydney.  My Grandmother said that he played the ‘Black Fella’ in Uncle Tom’s Cabin. I already knew that he had been in Uncle Tom’s Cabin but to have acutally been the star of the play, that I didn’t know.  He also played Captain Milton in another play, which I think is ‘Currency Cash’.  Ernest did not use his real name when performing but had stage name, which my grandmother couldn’t remember.  When I left, I said goodbye, told her I loved her.

Today sadly, my grandmother passed away at the grand age of 92 years. I will no longer get the chance to talk to her again but I’m glad I spent that time with her on Sunday. I will treasure those 3 hours every day of my life.  I am sure she is now with her sister and their sitting down having a cup of tea and having an old chin wag just like they used to.

Bookings for the History & Genealogy Expo Sydney 2010 have now opened.  As quoted on the Unlock the Past Site:

“The Expo is unique opportunity to see many societies, libraries and commercial product and service suppliers in one place and to learn from the many expert presenters. A significant focus will be on introducing newcomers to history and genealogy, but we expect to have something for researchers at all levels”

At a cost of $10 for both days, I have prebooked my ticket, as well as pre-booked for the following talks:

Date Details
Friday 22 October Discover Scottish Family History – Paton
Friday 22 October FamilySearch: Ancestors At Your Fingertips – Parton
Saturday 23 October Researching Families In British India – Murphy
Saturday 23 October Immigration From Ireland – McIntyre

This will be my first Genealogy Expo despite over 20 years of researching my family history.  It will be good to meet other genealogists, as well as after all these years, I just might learn something new. :-)

This is a continuation of from my two other posts on my endeavour to find the birth/baptism record of William George Baker. My previous posts are birth of William Baker and Baker, Baldwin, Rice.

Samuel King, as mentioned in my previous post, was married to Sarah King on the 18th May 1831. As I explained in both of the above posts, I concluded that William Baker was the son of Samuel & Sarah Baker, because all records here say that William’s parents were ‘Samuel & Sarah’ but also because the parents of William’s brother in law – James Rice, (Samuel Rice & Mary King) had been married at the same place and date as Samuel and Sarah King.

Unfortunately I am no closer to finding William’s birth, but since writing my last post on this, I have been in contact with a connection in England that is a descendant of Henry Baker (born 1824, Boxford, Suffolk).  Henry was the younger of Samuel Baker. Samuel and another brother John (born 1813), had been sentenced to transportation for ‘life’ in 1835 for sheep stealing. They were tried at the Suffolk Quarter Sessions in January 1835 and arrived on the ship ‘England’ in September 1835.

Samuel’s convict indent:

  • Samuel Baker
  • Age 25
  • RW
  • Religion: Roman Catholic
  • Status: Married
  • Children: 1 Male, 1 Female
  • Former Conviction: 2 years
  • Height: 5 Foot 4
  • Blue Eyes
  • Brown Hair
  • Ruddy Skin
  • Sentence: Life

Other: Mouth Small, Scar upper, Tattoos: Sun, Flower Pot, two diamonds, anchor, SBSS 1833 on lower left arm. Ring fourth finger of left hand

It is confirmed that Samuel & Sarah had, a daughter named Sarah, who was baptised in December 1834, but there is no record of any other children being born to the couple. I also note that Samuel’s previous conviction was for 2 years, which from what I’ve been advised Samuel was tried and convicted in the summer of 1832 for larceny. This leads us to think the male child listed above in the indent would have been born either before marriage or sometime in 1831.

If the male child as indicated on Samuel’s convict indent, is not William, then who was he and when was he born?  Also does this mean that Samuel & Sarah had a third child, being William born after Samuel left England?

If the male child was William George Baker, then this means he was born before Sarah, in at least 1832, but this does not coincide with the ages that William gives on the various documents found here in NSW.

Also, why aren’t Sarah and her children in the UK census? I have checked the 1841 & 1851 census for Suffolk but can find no record of them.  Did Sarah remarry, considering that there was no possible way for Samuel to return?  We know that from the shipping record for when William arrived in NSW in 1865, his mother Sarah is living in Woolwich Kent so that means that Sarah did not join her husband.

More questions than answers right now, but I do still think that Samuel & Sarah are William’s parents considering the connection between the Baker, Rice & King families but trying to find his baptism record and where he is in the 1841, 1851 & 1861 census, is frustrating, to say the least.

I will be undertaking further research on Samuel Baker, the convict to see where he went to once he arrived here. Did he remarry, did he have other children and when did he die, will a fluke occur and will his death certificate indicate the names of all of his children? Or will this remain one of those puzzles that we can only guess at, making assumptions based on what information we can find on the available records?

I’ve wanted to delve more into my UK ancestry for some time and if I wanted to continue I had to at least think about how I was going to do that, So on Thursday, I signed up for the premium monthly subscription through the www.ancestry.co.uk (which is where my original account was set up).  So there, I did it even though I was hesitant about hitting the submit button.

Anyway, I digress from the original topic of this post.  Please be with me, as this is a long post, but I just had to write down my research and notes as I went along over the last couple of days. Hope it’s not too confusing and overall the end should show some true findings on the Baldwin, Baker, King and Rice Families connections in Suffolk, England.  The sites I used were as follows:

Whilst searching for information on my ancestor, William George Baker (c1836-1881) and his wife Susan Baldwin (1842-1920), I saw that a number of trees had Susan’s parents different to what I had.

Most of the trees I found, had Susan’s mother to be Sarah Munnings, one has Sarah (no surname) and another Sarah Chambers and most also have the same ’6′ children attached to them. There is a marriage in Dec 1825 between a John Baldwin & Sarah Munnings and from what I can see on the census records, John & Sarah Munnings had 6 children, one a Susan Baldwin born in 1845 in Suffolk, which is why there is some confusion. I do believe that this marriage and the associated children are not connected to my John & Sarah Baldwin. (The children were: John 1832, Charles 1836, Ann 1840, David 1843, Susan 1845 and Mary 1850).

I do think the following marriage between John & Sarah is the more likely marriage for my ancestors:

Parish Records Collection: 1538-2005

  • Date: 26.11.1826
  • Parish: Bures St Mary
  • Place: Newtown
  • County: Suffolk
  • Source: Suffolk Marriage Index: 1813-1837 (FindMyPast)

I have not found a record for a marriage between a John Baldwin & Sarah Chambers.

Here is a list of information that I already had:

  • Records in Australia show that Susan’s parents were John & Sarah Baldwin and she was from Bures, Suffolk and born around 1844.
  • On the shipping record for when William George & Susan Baker arrived in NSW in 1865, William is listed as having an ‘Uncle George King’ already living at Bundarra. I’m yet to find any shipping record of a George King arriving here prior to 1865 but there is a George King living at Bundarra in 1872.
  • On the marriage certificate of William & Susan in 1863, one of the witnesses is “MaryAnn Rice”.
  • For William Baker, his parents were Samuel Baker & Sarah King. A marriage was found in 1831 at Boxford, Suffolk.
  • I have a death certificate for a Sarah Baldwin died 4th June 1856 at Bures St Mary, Suffolk. She was 54 years and was the ‘wife of John Baldwin, agricultural labourer’.   Now that I’m looking more into this, I did find another two deaths for “Sarah Baldwin’” in the same area of Suffolk, both in 1859. One in Sudbury (4a/285) and the other, Bury St Edmonds (4a/337). I’m thinking now that maybe the death in 1856 is not the death for my Sarah.  I’m thinking the one in Sudbury is the more likely one. Sarah would have died after 1851 & before the 1861 census, as John is listed as a widower in 1861.
  • I can find no record of John & Sarah in the 1841 UK Census
  • John & Sarah appear in the 1851 UK census, along with two daughters:
    • John Baldwin (46) Born Bures, Suffolk – listed as ‘Pensioner – Chelsea’
    • Sarah Baldwin (47) Born Boxford, Suffolk
    • Maryann (11) Born Bastead, Suffolk
    • Susan (8) Born Stoke, Suffolk
  • John appears in the 1861 UK census along with daughter Susan
    • John Baldwin (55) Born Bures, Suffolk –listed as ‘Chelsea Pensioner’
    • Susan (17), Born Stoke By Nayland, Suffolk
  • In the 1871 UK Census, John Baldwin is shown as being a lodger with James & Mary Ann Rice at Assington, Sudbury, Suffolk and is 65, occupation is ‘Soldier – Pensioner’ and was born in Bures, St Mary.

John Baldwin died 28th June 1871 at Assington, Suffolk. He was 65 and his occupation is listed as ‘Chelsea Pensioner’.  I found John’s military record over at FindMyPast the other night and even though it is a little hard to read he states he was 18 years old and was born at Bures, St Mary and enlisted on the 14th November 1825 and served until 1846, which is probably why John & Sarah are not in the 1841 UK census as he served in the East Indies for almost 12 years, though I’m not sure of the date he left & returned at this stage.

  • James Rice married MaryAnn Baldwin in 1860 (4a/629) at Sudbury, Suffolk.

Further research on Ancestry and FamilySearch shows:

  • James Rice christening information:
    • Name: James Rice Gender: Male Birth Date: abt 1838
    • Christening Date: 28 Jan 1838 Christening Place: Assington, Suffolk, England
    • Father’s Name: Samuel Rice Mother’s Name: Mary
  • James married Maryann Baldwin in 1860 at Suffolk
  • A number of public trees have James’ parents as Samuel Rice & Mary King. On one particular tree, Mary King’s parents are listed as:

I find the surname of King of interest here, seeing that William Baker had an Uncle George King already living in the colony, when he arrived in 1865. As yet, I have not found a shipping record that matches to this George King but I do think that this King family is related as Samuel Rice & Mary King were married on the same day in Boxford, Suffolk as Samuel Baker & Sarah King, the parents of William George Baker.

Name: Samuel Baker Gender: MaleSpouse’s name: Sarah KingMarriage Date: 18 May 1831Marriage Place: Boxford, Suffolk, EnglandRecord source: Suffolk Marriage Index (1813-37) Data provider: Suffolk Family History Society Name: Samuel Rice Gender: MaleSpouse’s name: Mary KingMarriage Date: 18 May 1831Marriage Place: Boxford, Suffolk, EnglandRecord source: Suffolk Marriage Index (1813-37) Data provider: Suffolk Family History Society

So from these two marriages I conclude that:

  • Sarah King (1809) & Mary King (1811) were sisters.
  • William George Baker (bc1836) and James Rice (bc1837) were cousins and they married Susan & Maryann Baldwin who were sisters.

So in all, a rather productive few days of research on my UK ancestors.  I’ll write more on the King and Rice connections another day.

Ancestry and Public Trees

Posted: August 17, 2010 in Ancestry, Resources

Today, I was looking at Ancestry at the local library to see if there was any information or public trees on my George Thomas Mathews.  George was born around 1840 at Prospect NSW and died sometime after 1894. I have looked at every death of a George Mathews/Matthews who died between 1894 & 1920 in New South Wales (when his wife remarried) but to no avail. You can read more about George and his ‘disappearance’ here and what I have done to try to find out when he died (which I get that I’m never going to know), in the hopes that maybe one day I’ll find out his parents’ names. I have 5 birth certificates of George & Ellen’s children and in all of them George was the informant and his birth place is listed as Prospect, New South Wales. Therefore I have to believe that he was born in NSW.

Today I found a number of public trees with George Mathews and his wife Ellen Shoulders with children. Now for the life of me, I don’t understand is why the public trees I found with George Mathews have incorrect information.

  • One tree has their Daughter Susan Jane Mathews, who married Robert Tailby, with a death date of 1955.  Wrong!  I have her death certificate and she died in 1916.
  • There are a couple of trees that had George’s birth to be around 1836 or 1840 and with the parents of Henry Mathews & Susan or Susannah Morris. I thought cool; someone must have found some information but I’m not so sure. Some had no source citations but one of them did as follows:
    • Source Detail for George’s birth was: A shipping record, he is listed as age 5, on a ship called Victorian, which arrived in NSW in 1841 and he was travelling with Thomas Mathews (aged 24) and Sarah Mathews (aged 35). Yeah, maybe George was born outside of Australia (which is probably why I cannot find his birth in NSW but then again, I don’t know the name of his parents and yes, I have checked the corresponding births in NSW and cross them out for various reasons) but that does not solve where or how someone was able to work out that this shipping record relates to my ‘George Thomas Matthews’.
    • When you click on the father’s name Henry Mathews, the source details for Henry & his wife Susan, are connected to a 1861 UK census and living at: Guilden Morden, Cambridgeshire, England. Henry, age 61, Susan Age 61, George, age 21, and Eliza age 18. Me is now confused. I also note that this family also appear in the 1841 & 1851 UK Census.

I can’t help but think someone has picked up some information and just attached it without bothering to verify the information and then everyone else has just followed suit. So therefore, I conclude that the parents of Henry & Susan that are attached to George Thomas Mathews in the trees I found, and the source information of the 1861 UK census is incorrect and the family above are not related to my George Mathews.

Why don’t people verify the information they find on the Internet?  Why is it so hard to do the actual work to trace your family history? Tracing your history means, getting information and verifying information, such as obtaining Birth, Death & Marriage certificates. Why is this so hard for people to do? I have done a lot of the leg work over the last 20 years and am happy to provide and exchange information with people. In some cases, things don’t seem quite right and you just have to take it that what you find is more than likely correct but I still put a disclaimer on what I have found if I am still not 100% sure.

I guess, I’m still at square one.  Right now, I believe this one will always stay a mystery, especially considering that I have no proof of the names of George’s parents.