In my post on the 7th January, I let you know that I had found the marriage of my ancestors Samuel Baldwin and Mary Warren at Polstead, Suffolk in 1804.
With this new found information I contacted my ‘cousin’ and let him know what I found. The finding of the marriage proved our connection. I am descended through Samuel and Mary’s first son, John Baldwin (b1804) and my cousin is descended through another son, Thomas Baldwin, born 1815. He was able to obtain the original copy of the marriage and one of the witness was a Samuel Warren, which I would think is probably Mary’s father.
I am yet to find any other children born to Samuel & Mary between 1804 and 1812 but they did have another 3 children. The children we know are below and were all born and baptised in St Marys’ Bures, Suffolk,
- John (1804-1871)
- Samuel (1813-1816
- Thomas (1815-1851)
- Robert (1817-1892)
- George (1826-1905)
From looking at the Cosford Database, Ancestry and Family Search, everything points to Mary Warren’s parents being Samuel Warren and Ann How. They were married on the 30th November 1779 at Polstead. Though in saying this, it’s possible “How” may not be her maiden name, as the marriage is listed twice, with Ann’s surname also being Townes.
Samuel Warren and Ann How
- Ann Warren 1780:
- Mary Warren 1783 -1842: married Samuel Baldwin in 1804
- Samuel Warren 1785 – 1845: married Ann Hyham in 1819
- Susan Warren 1789: married William Elmer in 1819
- Hannah Warren 1791:
- Elizabeth Warren 1793 – 1872: married John Green in 1818
- James Warren 1794:
- John Warren 1797:
- Edward Warren 1798 – 1884: married Maria Lambert in 1820 and married Charlotte Rice in 1846.
One tree on Ancestry has posted a photo of a house with the description ‘ Samuel Warren and Ann How’s house’. There is no other description or comments for the photo. Others have copied the photo over to their tree but I am reluctant to do this without further proof confirming that this was the house they had lived in. I’ve sent a message to the person who originally posted the photo and have asked them to let me know where the house is and the name of it. I’m thinking that it’s more than likely that it is in Polstead, considering that’s where they spent their live. But as yet, I haven’t heard from them.
Samuel’s age was listed as being 85 in the UK Census 1841 which would make his birth year to be 1756. But on his death, his age is listed as being 87, which would mean he was born in 1758.
On Family Search there are 3 possibilities for who his parents were:
- Samuel Warren – born 20 Nov 1756 Suffolk,England to William and Mary Warren
- Samuel Warren – christened 15 Feb 1758 Suffolk, to Nathanael Warren, and Sarah Warren
- Samuel Warren – christened 23 Apr 1758 Layham,Suffolk,to Samuel and Elizabeth Warren.
I note that there are some trees on Ancestry that have William & Mary as Samuel’s parents but I’d rather wait to see if I can find further prove before saying for sure that they were his parents.
There appears to have been some tragedy that occurred during March of 1842 in Polstead, because at least 3 members of Warren family died in early March.
Samuel Warren born 1758 – died March 1845. Buried 8 March 1845 at St Mary’s Polstead
Samuel Warren born 1785 – died March 1845. Buried 11 March 1845 at St Mary’s Polstead
Ann Warren (born 1820) married William Munson in 1841 – died March 1845. Buried 7 March 1845 at St Mary’s Polstead, note I’m not sure of who Ann’s parents were. The Cosford database has two Ann Warren’s born in 1820/1821. Maybe they are the one and the same? I would have to obtain the marriage certificate for Ann & William to see the name of Ann’s father.